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[Hawkeye]

Ah, yea! Movin' on up! Thanks to everyone except Boy and Steve!Just a quick update:

[Hawkeye]

Made the mistake of going to your video page in IE, then went to it again in Firefox. Haha, booyah!

[Crumbles]

Made the mistake of going to your video page in IE, then went to it again in Firefox. Haha, booyah!I don't understand why you keep posting those screenshots? so, by my good friend not even helping me support the site, I'm the fag?

[Hawkeye]

I don't understand why you keep posting those screenshots? so, by my good friend not even helping me support the site, I'm the fag?Sorry dude, I'm not going to help you whore your site for Google. I hate ads, period. The reason I posted the screenshot is that I didn't tell Firefox to screw that ad, it did it based off of the rule I set up as ads.google.* for other webpages I go to. I just thought it was funny that every where you try and paste your ads, Firefox fucks them. I'm surprised you haven't put any ads on your forum yet.

[Crumbles]

Sorry dude, I'm not going to help you whore your site for Google.I'm not whoring my site. I'm whoring google's site if anything.

I hate ads, period.I know, I can see how that ad is totally in your face and bothersome.

I'm surprised you haven't put any ads on your forum yet.They were on the video pages long before the homepage. Yea, I'm surprised too. I forgot that no one else on the internet does it. It'd be a shame if I tried to make a little money to help offset the cost of the site. Damn me!

[Hawkeye]

I'm not whoring my site. I'm whoring google's site if anything.Google is paying you for a service, much like you would pay a hooker for a service. You whore out a hooker, you whore out your site.I know, I can see how that ad is totally in your face and bothersome.Sorry man, the rule I set up in Adblock says "Block ads.*" or whatever. Hence, it blocks all ads.They were on the video pages long before the homepage. Yea, I'm surprised too. I forgot that no one else on the internet does it. It'd be a shame if I tried to make a little money to help offset the cost of the site. Damn me!Which is why I said I hate ads, period. They all get blocked. Not saying you are any different than others out there. Just saying now that you've decided to sell space on your site, surprised you haven't gone all the way.

[Crumbles]

...Not saying you are any different than others out there.Yes you are. Otherwise your 800 "fag" screenshots should have been sent to google, not me. You sending them to me, is you saying you are happy you're fucking me over. Not google.

[Hawkeye]

Yes you are. Otherwise your 800 "fag" screenshots should have been sent to google, not me. You sending them to me, is you saying you are happy you're fucking me over. Not google.Umm, what? You are trying to make money off your site by forcing people to look at ads. Which is exactly the same as 99% of other websites out there. How am I treating you differently? I'm not calling Google a fag for their ad getting blocked. I'm calling you a fag that your attempt to prostitute your website got blocked. Which is the same way I feel when AdBlock blocks ads on any other website.

Sure your ad is less invasive than most other websites'. However, AdBlock blocks anything with the word ads* in it. And I'm not going to go add an exception for your site just so you can make .000002 cents off of me.

[Crumbles]

I'm calling you a fag that your attempt to prostitute your website got blocked.Actually, you're really calling me a fag for you enjoying this site, and totally not supporting it in any way. In addition to you not supporting it in any way, you go out of your way to call me a "fag" and then post it on the same forum you aren't supporting.

See how that can be construed as: "Even after I'm totally fucking you over, and bragging about it, you keep calling me a friend! FAG!"

[Crumbles]

Also, if you hate those unobtrousive ads so much, then help me think of another way to make money. What would you suggest I try? Do you guys seriously think people will care about buying a MATDC T-Shirt? The least you could do instead of calling me a fag, is giving me another idea...

[dannydud]

Google is paying you for a service, much like you would pay a hooker for a service. You whore out a hooker, you whore out your site.

Not to interrupt today's Matt & Steve make out-fest or anything.....

Homeowners pay me for a service (an appraisal as part of a mortgage refinance or home purchase). Are they whoring me out? Am I whoring myself out? I tipped a waitress for serving me a delicious dinner on Saturday. Did I whore her out by making her bring me extra rolls?

I guess I really don't see what the problem with the ads are. But I am a businessman, who sees the importance of the bottom line. I am not sure that the purpose of this site is to make money, but then again, I am a businessman who sees the importance of the bottom line. It looks like you have a nifty little program that blocks ads out. If that is the case, then why would ads anywhere bother you? You don't even see them. Personally, I (as most people, I am sure) don't come to the internet to look for anything that is advertised. So I don't even notice that they are there.

[Crumbles]

Homeowners pay me for a service (an appraisal as part of a mortgage refinance or home purchase). Are they whoring me out? Am I whoring myself out? I tipped a waitress for serving me a delicious dinner on Saturday. Did I whore her out by making her bring me extra rolls?Very good points. Steve just likes to insult me whenever his small dick can. Hahahaha, you see what I did there? Did you see that? Hahaha, oh man. </stewie>

[Hawkeye]

Homeowners pay me for a service (an appraisal as part of a mortgage refinance or home purchase). Are they whoring me out? Am I whoring myself out?The term "whoring" normally means when someone compromises their principles for personal gain.I guess I really don't see what the problem with the ads are. But I am a businessman, who sees the importance of the bottom line. I am not sure that the purpose of this site is to make money, but then again, I am a businessman who sees the importance of the bottom line.Are you sure you're a businessman? I think you're a businessman. Thanks for clearing up you're a businessman... businessman.

The point was that this site was never about making money, rather it was about Matt enjoying bringing his own personal insight to the world. Now that has changed. It looks like you have a nifty little program that blocks ads out. If that is the case, then why would ads anywhere bother you? You don't even see them.They don't bother me now, that was the point of the AdBlock program. I was simply stating that I hate ads, hence I block them. He was crying b/c I wasn't "supporting his site" by intentionally inflicting myself with his ads.Very good points. Steve just likes to insult me whenever his small dick can.At least it gets used! Fag! Just check out today's anniversary, buddy... FAG!

[Crumbles]

The point was that this site was never about making money, rather it was about Matt enjoying bringing his own personal insight to the world. Now that has changed.You have no clue what you're talking about. First, when was that ever said? Second, didn't YOU suggest I sell T-Shirts? Also, who said I'm trying to make money? Or are you just making all of this up again?

[Hawkeye]

First, when was that ever said?If you mean you never said you weren't interested in making money, then I guess I'm mistaken. I always assumed you were just doing this for fun and the $5/year hosting fee you paid wasn't that financially damaging.Second, didn't YOU suggest I sell T-Shirts?Second, no, the only time I suggested a t-shirt was when you had promised Johno a prize about 2 years ago and never followed through. After your advertisement failure, you asked if I thought t-shirts would make money. I said I doubt it.Also, who said I'm trying to make money? Or are you just making all of this up again?Umm, making money means you accumulate wealth you didn't have. Your reasoning may be to just break even, however, you're still "making money."

Regardless, it's your website, do what you want with it. Just don't harp on me for not supporting your decisions.

[Crumbles]

If you mean you never said you weren't interested in making money, then I guess I'm mistaken. I always assumed you were just doing this for fun and the $5/year hosting fee you paid wasn't that financially damaging.*sigh* again, you have no clue what you're talking about. Your world, this site = $5 a year. Reality, this site costs over $120 every year, plus $1 for every Gig of bandwidth I go over in a month. You have a hard time with this perception vs. reality thing. I know I've said it to you before...
Second, no, the only time I suggested a t-shirt was when you had promised Johno a prize about 2 years ago and never followed through.Actually I did follow through with it. You just don't know about it because it didn't happen in front of you.
After your advertisement failure, you asked if I thought t-shirts would make money. I said I doubt it.What failure? I seem to be on track with it, and already making what I need to make. The only failure was my friends stabbing me in the back with helping out, remember? Then, I asked you for your ideas, and you're response was:

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Umm, making money means you accumulate wealth you didn't have. Your reasoning may be to just break even, however, you're still "making money."Are you retarded? You know you contridicted yourself in that sentence, right? I guess you've never heard of a non-profit before? Shit, I'm even less than that, because I don't take out a salary. All I want is the cost of this site to be covered. Therefore, I'm not "making money."
Regardless, it's your website, do what you want with it. Just don't harp on me for not supporting your decisions.I know, I'm such an asshole to try and break even. How dare me!

[Hawkeye]

*sigh* again, you have no clue what you're talking about. Your world, this site = $5 a year. Reality, this site costs over $120 every year, plus $1 for every Gig of bandwidth I go over in a month. You have a hard time with this perception vs. reality thing. I know I've said it to you before...Sorry, I guess I should learn not to listen to your lies. When you first started this website, you said you had gotten this "great" deal with DreamHosting. In fact, you even suggested that I have some of my friends host with them since it was so cheap. Although I was unable to find the same deal on their website, but you swore it existed. Sorry I believed you.Actually I did follow through with it. You just don't know about it because it didn't happen in front of you.Wow, only 2 years later. I'm sure Johno appreciates it. Sorry for calling you out.What failure? I seem to be on track with it, and already making what I need to make. The only failure was my friends stabbing me in the back with helping out, remember? Then, I asked you for your ideas, and you're response was:First, if you consider $1.86 a raving success, then we obviously differ in opinions. Second, stab you in the back? Are you serious? You're seriously crying b/c I refuse to load the ads on your page and make you .000004 cents the 4 times I go to your homepage a year? Wow. Sorry man, didn't realize I had cut you so deeply. :rolleyes: As for helping you make money on your site, sorry I have no ideas. Thought that was obvious when I didn't respond.
Are you retarded? You know you contridicted yourself in that sentence, right? I guess you've never heard of a non-profit before? Shit, I'm even less than that, because I don't take out a salary. All I want is the cost of this site to be covered. Therefore, I'm not "making money."You can define it either way.I know, I'm such an asshole to try and break even. How dare me!Again, wasn't calling you an asshole, just saying I don't agree with your ideas. Get over it.

[Crumbles]

Sorry, I guess I should learn not to listen to your lies. When you first started this website, you said you had gotten this "great" deal with DreamHosting. In fact, you even suggested that I have some of my friends host with them since it was so cheap. Although I was unable to find the same deal on their website, but you swore it existed. Sorry I believed you.Yea, I hate when I lie. Uh oh, what's this?

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=87700&highlight=dreamhost

Oh, and look, the OP was on the date my website started. What a fucking coincidence! You'll notice this deal is only good for one year, and for new users only. Since you apparently can't count, I'll help you out. I'm on year two right now. Oh, and if you're next arguement is: "I didn't know that though!" Then my rebuttle would be: "No fucking way! You mean you talked out of turn before understanding something? Man, that doesn't sound like you..."

But thanks for calling me a liar.

Wow, only 2 years later. I'm sure Johno appreciates it. Sorry for calling you out.Again, perception vs. reality... You are apparently just making up a 2 year later timeline? Or are you just saying that because it's the only thing that you know happened, and you assume since your head is in the sand the world is gone?

First, if you consider $1.86 a raving success, then we obviously differ in opinions.*sigh* again, your sweet exaggeration of reality... I roughly make on average .45 a day. That puts me at making around $120-$160 for the year. Since my yearly expenses are $120+, then yes, I'd say that it was a success. How's that definition?

...stab you in the back? Are you serious? You're seriously crying b/c I refuse to load the ads on your page and make you .000004 cents the 4 times I go to your homepage a year? Wow. Sorry man, didn't realize I had cut you so deeply.Well, first off, let me again thank you for caring so little about my webpage that you only go there 4 times a year. But we're friends, and you do care...right? :rolleyes:

I hate arguing with you, because 90% of your arguements are just blatent exagerations you spirt out, to try and make it seem like your argument is so much stronger. You know that I'd make more than .000004 cents per page view, and even more per click. You don't want to help out, fine, you calling me a FAG, a whore, a liar, and telling me I have very low values every five seconds for trying to break even is not really being a friend. In fact, you're the only one doing it to me. So yea, I'd consider that a stab in the back.
As for helping you make money on your site, sorry I have no ideas. Thought that was obvious when I didn't respond.Umm... it was. That's my point. But again, let me state first that I'm not making money. I'm paying for me expenses. And second, aren't you the one who made the argument: "Don't tell me not to do it, how about let's fix it!" I guess you took the low road on that one buddy. The low road...
You can define it either way.Umm.. no? There's a pretty set definition for it man.
Again, wasn't calling you an asshole...Nope, didn't hear that one yet. Just the "FAGS!", "WHORE'S", "LIAR'S", and the slow knife twisting noises... that's all so far... I figure you're reserving "asshole" for something else soon...

[Hawkeye]

Oh, and look, the OP was on the date my website started. What a fucking coincidence! You'll notice this deal is only good for one year, and for new users only. Since you apparently can't count, I'll help you out. I'm on year two right now. Oh, and if you're next arguement is: "I didn't know that though!" Then my rebuttle would be: "No fucking way! You mean you talked out of turn before understanding something? Man, that doesn't sound like you..." But thanks for calling me a liar.You went from paying $9.24/year to $120? Afraid I didn't know that. When I go to their site, it says it's $8/month. Again, perception vs. reality... You are apparently just making up a 2 year later timeline? Or are you just saying that because it's the only thing that you know happened, and you assume since your head is in the sand the world is gone?Sorry, you originally offered the prize on May 5, 2005. Now, as Johno stated on Jan. 25, 2006 he still had not received anything, when did you finally settle with him?*sigh* again, your sweet exaggeration of reality... I roughly make on average .45 a day. That puts me at making around $120-$160 for the year. Since my yearly expenses are $120+, then yes, I'd say that it was a success. How's that definition?My bad, I saw the bold $1.78 and then you complaining that I wasn't helping. Didn't notice the rocking $6.61 at the bottom.Well, first off, let me again thank you for caring so little about my webpage that you only go there 4 times a year. But we're friends, and you do care...right? :rolleyes: So it's my fault your homepage updates suck?I hate arguing with you, because 90% of your arguements are just blatent exagerations you spirt out, to try and make it seem like your argument is so much stronger. You know that I'd make more than .000004 cents per page view, and even more per click.First off, I'd never click those ads, so that isn't part of the argument. Secondly, please calculate exactly how much money you make for each page load. I doubt it's even a full cent.You don't want to help out, fine, you calling me a FAG, a whore, a liar, and telling me I have very low values every five seconds for trying to break even is not really being a friend.Then don't ask me about it. If you don't want to hear me say it, don't ask. That's my opinion. Deal with it.In fact, you're the only one doing it to me. So yea, I'd consider that a stab in the back.I can think of a million worse things a person can do than "not subject himself to my ads! Boo hoo!" that would be considered a stab in the back.Umm... it was. That's my point. But again, let me state first that I'm not making money. I'm paying for me expenses.So as soon as you potentially go over $120 revenue from your Google Ads, you're going to donate the addtional amount to charity?And second, aren't you the one who made the argument: "Don't tell me not to do it, how about let's fix it!" I guess you took the low road on that one buddy. The low road...I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.Umm.. no? There's a pretty set definition for it man.I disagree.Nope, didn't hear that one yet. Just the "FAGS!", "WHORE'S", "LIAR'S", and the slow knife twisting noises... that's all so far... I figure you're reserving "asshole" for something else soon...Boo hoo. Seriously. You've never called me a fag? You still think you're not whoring your site? And you've lied to me on a million other things throughout my life, guess this just wasn't one of them.

[Crumbles]

You went from paying $9.24/year to $120? Afraid I didn't know that. When I go to their site, it says it's $8/month.Not sure exactly what you're saying here. Are you trying to say I don't pay $120 for the year, I'm only paying $8 a month?
Sorry, you originally offered the prize on May 5, 2005. Now, as Johno stated on Jan. 25, 2006 he still had not received anything, when did you finally settle with him?Not sure what you mean by "offered." If you mean when the contest was started, that was actually Oct. 23rd, 2004 (according to my records). As far as when it was resolved, I'm not sure as to the exact date because the e-mail was stored on my Old PC that crashed before my new one. But it was about 1 month after I told him he won that it was resolved.
My bad, I saw the bold $1.78 and then you complaining that I wasn't helping. Didn't notice the rocking $6.61 at the bottom.Not sure if you're being sarcastic here, but again (if you are,) I think I'll be able to hit my cost of the site with the google stuff.
So it's my fault your homepage updates suck?No, but it's your fault that you're a total asshole who claims to somehow be my friend? Also, you're more than welcome to make the homepage better mr. I complain but never do anything...
First off, I'd never click those ads, so that isn't part of the argument.Funny, you told me you did at first to help me out... I thought I was the liar?
...Secondly, please calculate exactly how much money you make for each page load. I doubt it's even a full cent.Of course it's not. Your basic point is, "dude, my blocking the ad is not hurting you at all because you don't make a penny each time anyway!" and I'm proving to you that's not true as I'm going to make my target $120-$160 showing you that yes, even the few times you help, does hurt when you block the ads.
Then don't ask me about it. If you don't want to hear me say it, don't ask. That's my opinion. Deal with it.OK, sorry, I forgot that I asked you to call me a FAG when you blocked my ad that I put up without asking you...
I can think of a million worse things a person can do than "not subject himself to my ads! Boo hoo!" that would be considered a stab in the back.So can I...
So as soon as you potentially go over $120 revenue from your Google Ads, you're going to donate the addtional amount to charity?It depends, but it's funny you brought that point up. Assuming I have a surplus in revenue after my site expenses, I will invest whatever monies left-over back into the site. (such as I have done before with buying the chat script from the monies donated to me) If there is nothing that I'm currently wanting to get for the site, then yes, it will go to a charity. I have already talked to the dreamhost guys, and they have added my charity that I donate to. One of the numerous reasons I'm proud to support them, they match anything I donate.

Every few months, DreamHost will pick a new worthy charity to which we will facilitate giving! To donate to the charity all you have to do is come here and click the button for how much you'd like to give! That's it, you're done! The charge will go on your next hosting bill, and we'll handle the rest of the donation (note, donations will not actually be made until your hosting bill is paid). Best of all, DreamHost will MATCH all donations given by our customers through this page! How sweet of us!
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.You always make the arguement to never say: "If you don't like it, get over it." You think it should be: "I don't like it, so let's think of a better way to do it!" Then, you come in here and bitch about how I'm trying to make the money back that I spend on the site because you don't like the smallest ad on this planet, yet you offer no ideas on a better way to do it.
I disagree.Oh, well the rest of the world doesn't...
Boo hoo. Seriously. You've never called me a fag? You still think you're not whoring your site? And you've lied to me on a million other things throughout my life, guess this just wasn't one of them.First of all, I'm not crying about any of this. I'm totally used to the way you treat me by now. As you've said before: "I've been like this for years, and I haven't changed." No shit... I'm simply pointing out facts to you. And no, I don't think I'm "whoring" out my site, just as I don't think anyone else who tries to raise money for their cause isn't "whoring" themseleves out. That's the most rediculious thing I've ever heard.

[Hawkeye]

Not sure what you mean by "offered." If you mean when the contest was started, that was actually Oct. 23rd, 2004 (according to my records). As far as when it was resolved, I'm not sure as to the exact date because the e-mail was stored on my Old PC that crashed before my new one. But it was about 1 month after I told him he won that it was resolved.Then exactly why did he post on 01/25/06 that he never received a prize?No, but it's your fault that you're a total asshole who claims to somehow be my friend? Also, you're more than welcome to make the homepage better mr. I complain but never do anything...Again, how is it my responsibility to make your homepage better? Do I ever publicy ridicule your homepage? No, I just don't go to it often as it doesn't interest me. Sorry.
Funny, you told me you did at first to help me out... I thought I was the liar?Sorry, I clicked the ad one single time as I wasn't sure what it was. So, yes, I probably gave you 1/2 a cent. See, so stop bitching that I haven't supported you. You're welcome.Of course it's not. Your basic point is, "dude, my blocking the ad is not hurting you at all because you don't make a penny each time anyway!" and I'm proving to you that's not true as I'm going to make my target $120-$160 showing you that yes, even the few times you help, does hurt when you block the ads.Exactly, so, I want you to calculate exactly how much money you'd make off of me going to your site 4 times a year if I didn't have AdBlock enabled. And I'll send you a check for that amount. Then will you stop crying and calling me a "back stabber?"OK, sorry, I forgot that I asked you to call me a FAG when you blocked my ad that I put up without asking you...You put up the ad, I came in here and called you a fag b/c AdBlock owned it. Then you asked me why I called you a fag. If you didn't want to know, don't ask.Oh, well the rest of the world doesn't...I'm glad you are now speaking for the rest of the world. It's about time they got a voice.First of all, I'm not crying about any of this. I'm totally used to the way you treat me by now. As you've said before: "I've been like this for years, and I haven't changed." No shit... I'm simply pointing out facts to you.Thanks, I'll let you know when I cry myself to sleep over your opinion of me. If you're not crying, why keep bringing it up?And no, I don't think I'm "whoring" out my site, just as I don't think anyone else who tries to raise money for their cause isn't "whoring" themseleves out. That's the most rediculious thing I've ever heard.I disagree. Oh, and it's "ridiculous."

[Crumbles]

Then exactly why did he post on 01/25/06 that he never received a prize?Probably the same reason you and Boy keep thinking his monitor thing was never resolved. People tend to forget.
Again, how is it my responsibility to make your homepage better? Do I ever publicy ridicule your homepage? No, I just don't go to it often as it doesn't interest me. Sorry.Again? What are you talking about. When did I say it was your responsibility? I, "again," simply said you are supposed to be a part of this site, yet you never do anything on the homepage. You just said the homepage sucks, and I was informing you of your complaining yet never helping attitude again. Just showing a pattern, that's all.
Exactly, so, I want you to calculate exactly how much money you'd make off of me going to your site 4 times a year if I didn't have AdBlock enable. And I'll send you a check for that amount. Then will you stop crying and calling me a "back stabber?"I guess the point I'm trying to make is your thought process is totally wrong. Even though you claim to think the other way, your actions prove otherwise. Collectivly as a whole, AdBlock hurts my chances of recouping my money invested in this site. You not only partake in it, but go the extra step to make fun of me about it. The question shouldn't be how much money I'd make off you, it's how much money I'm losing because of you.

My thought process = I don't like it, I do something about it.
Your thought process = I don't like it, I have the right to complain about it, yet I'm going to do nothing about it.

We just think differently. I take action, you don't and complain.
You put up the ad, I came in here and called you a fag b/c AdBlock owned it. Then you asked me why I called you a fag. If you didn't want to know, don't ask.The question was rhetorical. I was saying you should be calling Google a fag, not me, but your twisted logic has shown that you somehow think I'm a whore. There's really nothing too much further to go with this since you think that way...
I'm glad you are now speaking for the rest of the world. It's about time they got a voice.Sorry man, but that's the way it is. The definition of something in law and stone doesn't change because lonely old Hawkeye "doesn't think that's the case."
Thanks, I'll let you know when I cry myself to sleep over your opinion of me.What? You mean you don't care about our friendship? Fucking damn, I didn't know that at all!
...If you're not crying, why keep bringing it up?Because I'm defending my position just as you are? What kind of lame question is that? Or are you finally just out of gas?
Oh, and it's "ridiculous."OMG, you totally won that argument. Actually, I could totally twist that around and say that statement proves you're an asshole, which really helps my argument. Thanks!

[Hawkeye]

Probably the same reason you and Boy keep thinking his monitor thing was never resolved. People tend to forget.So, explain it to me. How was it resolved? You said you'd give him a gift as winner of a contest. What did you do for him?Again? What are you talking about. When did I say it was your responsibility? I, "again," simply said you are supposed to be a part of this site, yet you never do anything on the homepage. You just said the homepage sucks, and I was informing you of your complaining yet never helping attitude again. Just showing a pattern, that's all.Ok, then here's my response: Get over it. How can you say "You should be a part of the site!" and then say "Oh, but it's not your responsibility.." Well, which is it, am I expected to be apart of your homepage or is it not my responsibility? If it's not my responsibility, then stop bringing it up and crying about it. God damn.I guess the point I'm trying to make is your thought process is totally wrong. Even though you claim to think the other way, your actions prove otherwise. Collectivly as a whole, AdBlock hurts my chances of recouping my money invested in this site. You not only partake in it, but go the extra step to make fun of me about it. The question shouldn't be how much money I'd make off you, it's how much money I'm losing because of you.

My thought process = I don't like it, I do something about it.
Your thought process = I don't like it, I have the right to complain about it, yet I'm going to do nothing about it.My thought process is dead on. Did I complain about your lame ads? No, I solved my problem with them with AdBlock. Hence, my thought process = I don't like it, I fixed it.We just think differently. I take action, you don't and complain.Wrong again.The question was rhetorical. I was saying you should be calling Google a fag, not me, but your twisted logic has shown that you somehow think I'm a whore. There's really nothing too much further to go with this since you think that way...Are you paying Google for a service? Or is Google paying you? Exactly, the one who gets paid is the whore. By definition.Sorry man, but that's the way it is. The definition of something in law and stone doesn't change because lonely old Hawkeye "doesn't think that's the case."Prove it, Mr. Britannica.What? You mean you don't care about our friendship? Fucking damn, I didn't know that at all!Out come the tears again...Because I'm defending my position just as you are? What kind of lame question is that? Or are you finally just out of gas?So you're defending your position that you think I'm a bad friend? No, you're crying about it. Let me take a page from your book: If you don't like it, do something about it.OMG, you totally won that argument. Actually, I could totally twist that around and say that statement proves you're an asshole, which really helps my argument. Thanks!Umm, what? I guess when you can't spell this is all you have to resort to. We were arguing whether I was an asshole? I thought that had already been established.

[Boy]

I want to shoot myself in the face.

[Hawkeye]

Moved from the Funny Screenshots thread to keep that thread on track and Boy happy.

[Crumbles]

Ok, then here's my response: Get over it. How can you say "You should be a part of the site!" and then say "Oh, but it's not your responsibility.." Well, which is it, am I expected to be apart of your homepage or is it not my responsibility? If it's not my responsibility, then stop bringing it up and crying about it. God damn.Get over what? The fact that you told me you'd do blogs for the homepage and then never did? I am over it. I never said anything to you about it until you started complaining my homepage sucked. "God damn."
My thought process is dead on. Did I complain about your lame ads? No, I solved my problem with them with AdBlock. Hence, my thought process = I don't like it, I fixed it.Your thought process of "how can I possibly matter in this" is wrong.
Wrong again.Ha. OK, I guess that was a good argument? Were were you on election day? What did you tell me when I said I am taking action to get the FairTax act passed? You said: "It'll never happen." You're thought process is to complain, and never take action. You do this all the time. But good arguement though...

"The world is moving so fast these days that the man who says it can't be done is generally interrupted by someone doing it."
Are you paying Google for a service? Or is Google paying you? Exactly, the one who gets paid is the whore. By definition.Great logic. So every watier, waitress, mechanic, lawnservice, etc. are all whores..."by definition" right? Damn I'm so glad I don't think like you. How depressing.
Prove it, Mr. Britanica.You don't know how to look something up now? Don't you have Wikipedia on speed dial?
Out come the tears again...No tears, just the truth.
So you're defending your position that you think I'm a bad friend? No, you're crying about it.No, I'm defending the reason for the ads. You've shown your lack of friendship in the posts.
Let me take a page from your book: If you don't like it, do something about it.I already have.
Umm, what? I guess when you can't spell this is all you have to resort to.Hmm... sort of like when you have no argument so you have to revert to pointing out mistakes in peoples sentences, right? Well, here, let me make the same sweet argument you did:
...am I expected to be apart of your homepage...

[Hawkeye]

Get over what? The fact that you told me you'd do blogs for the homepage and then never did? I am over it. I never said anything to you about it until you started complaining my homepage sucked. "God damn."Ok, so you're over it now? Good. Now never bring it up again.Your thought process of "how can I possibly matter in this" is wrong.I just offered to pay you the exact amount of money you believe that my 4 visits per year would gain in cash. What more do you want?Ha. OK, I guess that was a good argument? Where were you on election day?Sitting at home and not voting for the lesser of two evils. Give me a candidate worth voting for and I'll be there. What did you tell me when I said I am taking action to get the FairTax act passed? You said: "It'll never happen." You're thought process is to complain, and never take action. You do this all the time. But good arguement though...Wow, somehow you've warped this entire argument into me complaining about your ads/homepage. None of which I've done. My problem with your homepage was solved by AdBlock. No other complaints here. Looks like a pretty quick: Notice problem, fix it.Great logic. So every watier, waitress, mechanic, lawnservice, etc. are all whores..."by definition" right? Damn I'm so glad I don't think like you. How depressing.Hahahaha, poor guy, can't figure out the simple definition of a whore that I've already posted 20 times? Sorry man, I can't help you any further. Maybe in a few years you'll be older and wiser. Come back to this thread then.You don't know how to look something up now? Don't you have Wikipedia on speed dial?So Wikipedia will show me what the slang term "make money" means? Please show it to me. Until then, my definition makes as much sense as yours.No tears, just the truth.Ok, have we cleared this up too? I don't want to see you crying about it anymore. "Oh boo hoo, you're a bad friend!" Do something about it then, Mr. Man of Action.No, I'm defending the reason for the ads. You've shown your lack of friendship in the posts.See above.I already have.By crying?Hmm... sort of like when you have no argument so you have to revert to pointing out mistakes in peoples sentences, right? Well, here, let me make the same sweet argument you did:Haha, so you've decided to jump on a typo vs. an actual spelling error? Ok, have at it. The argument has never been whether I'm an asshole or not. Somehow you seem to be trying to push it in that direction.

Edit: Oh, and you still failed to mention how you made it up to Johno for never sending his prize.

[Crumbles]

Ok, so you're over it now? Good. Now never bring it up again.OK, now never complain that my homepage sucks again. See how that works? You don't attack me, I don't defend. Pretty simple huh?
So Wikipedia will show me what the slang term "make money" means? Please show it to me. Until then, my definition makes as much sense as yours.How the fuck do you not know what "making money" means? It means to profit from something. Show me where I'm profiting from this site.
..."Oh boo hoo, you're a bad friend!" Do something about it then, Mr. Man of Action...
...See above.
...By crying?Nope.
The argument has never been whether I'm an asshole or not.That's for sure. I think everyone would agree that's not even debatable.

[Hawkeye]

OK, now never complain that my homepage sucks again. See how that works? You don't attack me, I don't defend. Pretty simple huh?Again, I wasn't complaining. You questioned why I only go to it 4 times a year, I stated why. Sorry, it wasn't an attack. You asked a question, I answered it.How the fuck do you not know what "making money" means? It means to profit from something. Show me where I'm profiting from this site.Again, making money to me means accumulating money. Which you are doing off your ads. The fact that you are then spending that money on paying for this website doesn't matter.That's for sure. I think everyone would agree that's not even debatable.Ok then, another item we never have to discuss again. We're agreed.

[Crumbles]

Again, making money to me means accumulating money. Which you are doing off your ads. The fact that you are then spending that money on paying for this website doesn't matter.Umm, yes it does. That means I'm not accumulating money, hence, not making a profit, hence, voiding the lable/definition of "making money." Read that a few times, I'm sure it will sink in eventually.

[Hawkeye]

Umm, yes it does. That means I'm not accumulating money, hence, not making a profit, hence, voiding the lable/definition of "making money." Read that a few times, I'm sure it will sink in eventually.Regardless of your understanding of the slang term, you're wrong to begin with based off your own math. You state the site costs your roughly $120 / year to maintain. You then stated you make on average .45 cents a day in return from Google. So, doing the math, .45 cent a day x 365 days a year = $164.25, netting you a $44.25 yearly profit. So, even under your definition, you're "making money." [ LINK (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=owned) ]

[Crumbles]

Regardless of your understanding of the slang term, you're wrong to begin with based off your own math. You state the site costs your roughly $120 / year to maintain. You then stated you make on average .45 cents a day in return from Google. So, doing the math, .45 cent a day x 365 days a year = $164.25, netting you a $44.25 yearly profit. So, even under your definition, you're "making money." [ LINK (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=owned) ]*sigh*

no, I'm not, you, AGAIN, didn't look at all the facts before you spoke.

First, I said on average. Not a fixed number like your math is.
Second, the $120 is just for the yearly renewal of the site. There are other costs involved, as I said, such as bandwidth overages, etc. which make that cost go up even more.
Third, I said that any extra money made, does not go into my hands, nor has it ever. It gets donated, or used on the site.

[Hawkeye]

First, I said on average. Not a fixed number like your math is.First, as you are only giving me averages, I can only do math on averages. Give me more concrete numbers if you expect them in return.Second, the $120 is just for the yearly renewal of the site. There are other costs involved, as I said, such as bandwidth overages, etc. which make that cost go up even more.So, how much is it? Again, give me a concrete number. You say $120 and then "other mysterious costs." Can't you look at 2005 and see how much your site cost?Third, I said that any extra money made, does not go into my hands, nor has it ever. It gets donated, or used on the site.Doesn't matter what you do with your money afterwards, by your definition, once you've accounted for the pure maintenance costs of your site, you're making money. You can give it to charity, spend it on the site, or go buy yourself a slurpee.

[Crumbles]

First, as you are only giving me averages, I can only do math on averages. Give me more concrete numbers if you expect them in return.I can't, I can let you know at the end of the year. There are WAY to many variables to do a good average. Hence my range of $120-$160. That's my goal.
So, how much is it? Again, give me a concrete number.I can't. It's not that simple.
You say $120 and then "other mysterious costs."Do you not read shit, or do you just aspire to be the biggest asshole on this planet? I already gave you an example of "other mysterious costs" already. For someone who wants nothing to do with this fucking site, you sure want to know the buisness details...Why should I bother explaining to you the costs of everything I've done?
Can't you look at 2005 and see how much your site cost?How will that give me an accurate depiction of the next year? I'm not a statistical analyst dude. The site is growing, and I have no idea how much it's going to grow, or what people are going to download the most off of my site when I post it. Another big factor in the cost of this site.
Doesn't matter what you do with your money afterwards, by your definition, once you've accounted for the pure maintenance costs of your site, you're making money. You can give it to charity, spend it on the site, or go buy yourself a slurpee.No, you're just not smart enough to see the real underlying definition since this has to be explained to you over and over. Are you worried that the money I make isn't going to be taxed or something? It entirely does matter what you do with your money "afterwards." That's the point.

Gawd, you're just sputtering out the dumbest arguments on this planet, and then going back to edit in a LINK to owned.

[Crumbles]

Exactly, so, I want you to calculate exactly how much money you'd make off of me going to your site 4 times a year if I didn't have AdBlock enabled. And I'll send you a check for that amount. Then will you stop crying and calling me a "back stabber?"OK, if my calculations are correct, for every 1,368 page impressions, I get about a buck. So, according to my webstats, this month you owe me:

~$.90

Send the check.

[Hawkeye]

You are trying to argue with me on whether or not your ads will make money, yet you refuse to provide any facts that I can actually use.
Do you not read shit, or do you just aspire to be the biggest asshole on this planet? I already gave you an example of "other mysterious costs" already.One example. What are the other "random costs." For someone who wants nothing to do with this fucking site, you sure want to know the buisness details...Why should I bother explaining to you the costs of everything I've done?You don't have to. Just don't try and argue my generalizations when you refuse to provide the actual facts.No, you're just not smart enough to see the real underlying definition since this has to be explained to you over and over. Are you worried that the money I make isn't going to be taxed or something? It entirely does matter what you do with your money "afterwards." That's the point.I'm sorry you can't comprehend your own definition. I still fail to see how your ads aren't making you money. Do you suddenly have money that you didn't before? Yes. Money made. However, even if you don't agree with that definition, then your definition was: I haven't made any money b/c I'm breaking even. Fine, I've shown that you probably will do better than break even, yet you still say you haven't made any money. Yes you have. You have money that you didn't before you implemented your Google ads. You also have money on top of what you will pay towards your site. What you decide to do with that new money is meaningless. You've made money. Jesus, go take an accounting class.Gawd, you're just sputtering out the dumbest arguments on this planet, and then going back to edit in a LINK to owned.I edited in an Owned link? Funny, looks like it was already in my post. Hence you quoting it when you replied.

The end result is you are making money off of your Google ads. Simple as that.OK, if my calculations are correct, for every 1,368 page impressions, I get about a buck. So, according to my webstats, this month you owe me:

~$.90

Send the check.The Hewitt IP address can be me, Fonz, or Neruos. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that I've gone to your main website over 1,200 times in less than a month.

[Crumbles]

Go take a economics class. "Jesus"

[Hawkeye]

Go take an economics class. "Jesus".

[protargol]

Blah blah
Blah blah
Let's go play cowboys and indians

[Crumbles]

Let's go play cowboys and indiansat least spell my name right. You'll make Hawkeye cry.

[Boy]

Just to let you know, google will ban your account to the stoneage if it finds out "friends" are clicking your links on purpose for you to make money. Just to throw that out there...

[Crumbles]

Just to let you know, google will ban your account to the stoneage if it finds out "friends" are clicking your links on purpose for you to make money. Just to throw that out there...That's not exactly what their TOS means, but yes, I know that.

[Crumbles]

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[Hawkeye]

Just to let you know, google will ban your account to the stoneage if it finds out "friends" are clicking your links on purpose for you to make money. Just to throw that out there...I also heard from a friend who runs the same ads that they do regular scanning of your homepage and if they find questionable content (excessive profanity and/or adult content) they could possibly ban your account. Is that true? If so, are you worried about that?

Edit: Also, what's supposed to be displayed in the post above mine? All I see is a blank response. But if I mouse over it, Firefox says there is a link there. When I click on it, it asks to install Quicktime. WTF? IE just displays a blank box, mouse over shows nothing.

[Crumbles]

I also heard from a friend who runs the same ads that they do regular scanning of your homepage and if they find questionable content (excessive profanity and/or adult content) they could possibly ban your account. Is that true? If so, are you worried about that?Why would I be worried about that? I have no adult content on the webpage anywhere. Excessive profanity? No. First, they are all for American rights, and wouldn't deny anyone because they said cuss words. Freedom of speech, ya know? Second, you have to get approved into their program. To get approved, you have to show traffic, and a decent site. So my site has already been inspected.

Edit: Also, what's supposed to be displayed in the post above mine? All I see is a blank response. But if I mouse over it, Firefox says there is a link there. When I click on it, it asks to install Quicktime. WTF? IE just displays a blank box, mouse over shows nothing.Hahahaha, firefuck.

[Hawkeye]

Why would I be worried about that? I have no adult content on the webpage anywhere. Excessive profanity? No. First, they are all for American rights, and wouldn't deny anyone because they said cuss words. Freedom of speech, ya know? Second, you have to get approved into their program. To get approved, you have to show traffic, and a decent site. So my site has already been inspected.Just repeating what I read on their website: https://www.google.com/adsense/policies

Site Content
Site may not include:
Excessive profanity
Pornography, adult, or mature contentDidn't know they only review it once. Hahahaha, firefuck.IE does it to me too. Actually, it's worse. IE just pretends like there is nothing there.

[Crumbles]

Just repeating what I read on their website: https://www.google.com/adsense/policiesI don't know, I really doubt my site is a problem. I've been on websites downloading really questionable stuff before, and I notice google ads. I'm like WTF? How did they get approved? There's no adult content on my page, that's what I would be worried about. And, as I've said before, they have to "approve" your page. So they know what my page is. Besides, what do they care what a whore does anyway?

IE does it to me too. Actually, it's worse. IE just pretends like there is nothing there.FAG!