Wellfare, my only problems with democrats

[VashTesh]

OK, so people do you think that its fair that we have to pay the little bit of money we have to people to lazy to work, and then tell me how its different from communism. This is my only big problem with democrats, other than that, i agree with them more than republicans. I think alot of the religious right hold back personal freedoms, i mean i know gays are sick, but who is it hurting by them getting married. Censorship also, who cares if our kids listen to cussing, fuck, if you enter them into a public school they will be cussing by the time they are in 5th grade.

[protargol]

OK, so people do you think that its fair that we have to pay the little bit of money we have to people to lazy to work, and then tell me how its different from communism. This is my only big problem with democrats, other than that, i agree with them more than republicans. I think alot of the religious right hold back personal freedoms, i mean i know gays are sick, but who is it hurting by them getting married. Censorship also, who cares if our kids listen to cussing, fuck, if you enter them into a public school they will be cussing by the time they are in 5th grade.
It's not fair to prop up people not willing to work. But that's not usually the case. Welfare programs are in place so if a person who lives paycheck to paycheck looses their job, they don't get kicked onto the streets. They can be sustained long enough to get a new job. These people aren't lazy, the economy just wanders and sometimes leaves people behind. Think of the great depression. The economy tanked, people lost their jobs, and there just wasn't a demand for workers. So the government created a demand through social programs. The Tenn. Valley Authority was not needed, but it helped people and provided a service. However it was the government doing something that should normally be left to companies. However such an action helped this nation survive until WWII. Social programs have their time and place.

[VashTesh]

It's not fair to prop up people not willing to work. But that's not usually the case.
Yes sadly enough it is, wellfare abuse is very prevalent, i would say only 5 percent of people on wellfare deserve to be, the others get it because they are to lazy to get a job.

[Hawkeye]

Yes sadly enough it is, wellfare abuse is very prevalent, i would say only 5 percent of people on wellfare deserve to be, the others get it because they are to lazy to get a job. I'm not going to really get into this argument, b/c I already had it with Crumbles. However, I will say that your statement here is an opinion and not a fact.

You don't have any facts or statistical data to back up your claim, so we must assume that you have just made it up. Plus, your profile says you're 17, so I doubt you work in a wellfare office where you could actually witness such events.

[VashTesh]

no your right, i dont, my mom does...

"between 0.5% and 3% of welfare cases are fraudulent..."

"25% of welfare cases are unemployment-related "

Associated press investigation came up with those statistics. The figure i gave obviously were inaccurate, btu it seems like 25% of the people who are getting welfare could possible get off there asses and get a job, i would let them be on wellfare for 3 months, but there new job should become finding a new job.

[white locust]

the intent of welfare was originally a stellar idea, but the masses have taken advantage of it as they do everything else in this nation. people have become so used to living in the most tolerable, richest nation in existence and it has mad them simply lazy and worthless. i mean, i see people around where i live that reside in housing developments that are designated specifically for the less fortunate, but these same people are driving brand new sports cars, suvs, and other four wheel drive vehicles that cost as much as a lot of new houses do. you mean to tell me they can't afford to pay more than fifty dollars a month for rent, but can manage to squeeze a five hundred dollar car payment and six hundred dollar insurance payment out a month. i say the system needs to be fixed. this disgusts me beyond measure. this is part of the reason why i am a strict conservative. i get sick of the federal government taking my hard earned buck and distributing it to the trash that has no ethical principle that convinces it to go out and get a job to earn its own way of living.

thanks for listening to my blathering,
jared shull

[BigOldDirtyBear]

I can tell you plenty about the welfare system. I worked for my county's social services dept. for 30 years (9/74 to 10/04). I retired before all hell broke loose due to a budgetary crisis due to Medicaid (N.Y. State) and mismanagment of tax revenues by our fucking bastard of a county executive. Anyhow, I've seen welfare recipients with fancy cellphones, jewlery, nice cars, and fancy nail jobs. How do they do that? They scam the system about lying about the location of their kids' fathers (they live with them) or they have unreported jobs, dealing drugs, and stiffing their landlords for the rent and the gas and electric co.s and come downtown to complain about their evictions and the shutoff of their utilities. Their aren't enough investigators to check out and prosecute all of the ripoffs!:mad:

[Bailey de Mittens]

My uncle is prime example of someone who abuses the welfare system. I have talked to him about it and he just laughs. Then my other uncle (his baby brother) tells him to file for disablity. (Disablity from what! My uncle tries not to work!! and has been on welfare for years!! AUGHHHH :mad: ) He said that he could get disablity because we have a family history of being bi-polar and so on, and it worked for both of them. So, we all are paying for my two, lazy-ass uncles. The whole thing just pisses me off!! :mad: